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From Confused to Confident

By Vidya Kurella

The Big Divide: ABCD vs. FOB

It’s Saturday night, and I find myself at one of those very trendy South Asian singles events. I’m in line at the bar, when a certain someone catches my eye. I lean in his direction and strain to hear his voice. What am I listening for? His accent, of course! Everyone knows it’s the best way to figure out if a Desi guy is a FOB or an ABCD, right? But, then what? Why do I care so much if someone is a FOB or an ABCD? And, what’s the difference anyway?

Before getting into this though, let’s define some terms (I’m a lawyer, so I can’t help myself). An ABCD is commonly known as an "American Born Confused Desi." Most of us have made this term our own—e.g. check out this very fascinating magazine—but I think it’s safe to say that the term wasn’t originally meant to be complimentary. It refers to South Asians born and raised in the United States (or Canada, but talk about a double whammy—being presumed to be confused and American!). Where did it come from? Probably a FOB with some time on his or her hands. And, FOB, commonly defined as "Fresh Off the Boat," generally refers to South Asians who immigrated to the United States.


Every group is the victim of stereotyping, and ABCDs and FOBs are no exception. Some of the more common stereotypes about FOBs are that they tend to only socialize with other FOBs, prefer to eat Indian food all the time and are generally diligent about visiting their parents and extended family in India. They also often have Indian accents that I can’t understand, wear white socks with dress shoes and don’t use antiperspirant.

Of course, there are plenty of stereotypes about ABCDs too. They are not expected to speak their mother tongue, always think their parents "won’t understand, because they didn’t grow up here," aren’t close to their extended family in India and are not FOB-friendly. We are often also accused of being coconuts (or Suzie-Q’s or Ho-Hos), brown on the outside and white on the inside, and of not respecting our heritage. But most of us would agree that being an ABCD isn’t so bad; it’s better than being a FOB, right?

Now back to the bar. That night, this certain someone caught my glance, and we started up a conversation. His name was Krishna*, and he’s a FOB. Krishna and I hit it off and eventually settled into a long-distance friendship. In my humble (and admittedly stereotypical) ABCD opinion, Krishna is different. Krishna doesn’t conform to any of the stereotypes. By most ABCD standards, he’s not your typical FOB.

We have the kind of relationship in which we can talk about anything really. He has myriad interests, is intellectually curious, and is a great phone person. That’s why we’re friends. We talk about politics, world events and the people in our lives. We both love to travel and learn new things. This summer, I learned to scuba, and he learned to sail. But, we have differences too. His parents live in Hyderabad and mine live in Chicago. He went to college in India, and I went to school in Philly. I can vote, he can’t.

Even though we talk about anything and everything, it wasn’t until a year into our friendship that we actually talked about the ABCD/FOB divide. And, we more or less stumbled upon it. He was telling me about a group of FOBs at his work whom he used to hang out with. Recently, they stopped inviting him out. He felt insulted and was somewhat disenchanted about being excluded by "his people."

So, in an attempt to make him feel better, I told him I thought he was different (as described above) and that it wasn’t surprising to me that his FOB colleagues didn’t want to socialize with him anymore. He wasn’t really like them and was really more like me, an ABCD, which was why we got along so well. Or, so I thought.

For what seemed like an eternity there was dead air, and then Krishna said, "That’s not true. I am a FOB." And I immediately thought, "Why would anyone want to be a FOB?" Doesn’t every FOB aspire to be confused (pun intended) for an ABCD? Apparently not. I paused before I said something condescending. And, that was when I realized what the difference between ABCDs and FOBs is. We are confused, and we are always working through things to give ourselves a clearer identity—to be more American or to be more South Asian. We grew up bi-culturally and have always felt and will continue to feel the need to balance the two worlds we live in. FOBs have one identity: a South Asian one. Krishna didn’t want to be an ABCD. In fact, I think Krishna was offended by what I had thought to be a compliment. So, I apologized.

When I told him I was going to write this article, he wondered if the topic wasn’t trite. Maybe it was to him, but it certainly wasn’t to me. I learned a lot about him and myself from that conversation. More importantly, he questioned the premise of the article entirely, saying, "Why don’t you just write about why ABCDs don’t get along with Mexican people?" At first I didn’t understand, but then it became clear. He wanted to know why the ABCD/FOB divide was an issue. "FOBs are not some archaic version of ABCDs," he pointed out, "We really are different." They share an immigrant experience all their own. And, as Krishna further explained, South Asian FOBs probably have more in common with Chinese FOBs than they do with ABCDs (whether or not they know it). Though FOBs may eventually integrate into American culture, they will always remain first-generation Americans. And, ABCDs never will be.

That somewhat obvious, but still enlightening point, made my head reel. Do I have more in common with my Jewish-American neighbor than I do with Krishna? Is that good? Is that bad? Does that mean that I’m not Indian enough?

It doesn’t mean any of those things, I decided. FOBs have a different experience in this country, because they are immigrants. When I think about my parents, it all makes sense. They were immigrants and always will be. They still prefer to socialize with other South Asians and eat Indian food all the time, but they’ve also adopted the trappings of American life. However, thirty-some years after my parents came here, my father still says he feels like a second-class citizen (even though he probably votes more often than the average non-naturalized American). I might look like him, but I certainly don’t feel the same way. I will never have the same ties to India that he does. And, he will never have the same ties to this country that I do. That’s the bottom line.

When I surveyed my ABCD and FOB friends on the divide, each described the other group as elitist and exclusive. It doesn’t have to be that way. We have to get to know each other like we would any other group of people. Just because we come from the same part of the world doesn’t mean we are the same. Nonetheless, sometimes when I hang out with my FOB friends, I feel insecure about my South Asian-ness. And, I admit that sometimes I want to assert my ABCD "I’m American" sense of superiority. I certainly wouldn’t do that with any other group of people, but sometimes I find myself doing it with the FOBs.

Soon after this conversation with Krishna, I decided to test his pearls of wisdom. I was at a good friend’s party over the weekend. He too happens to be a FOB. As the party drew to a close, a core group of his FOB friends (plus me) overstayed their welcome well into the night. As the wine flowed, the conversation became animated, and the jokes started being told in Hindi.

I’m a South Indian ABCD, so Hindi is generally beyond me. I tried studying it once, and I’ve seen my share of Bollywood films, but I still need subtitles. I was used to this turn of events however. Usually, I just stay quiet and indulge my personal insecurities about not understanding Hindi. But, this night was different. I decided to assert myself and ask for a translation—after all, that is what I would do if they were speaking German (or some other language that I didn’t comprehend). And, I got one. So, I got to enjoy the joke too.

After we went through this process a few times, one of the guys asked me why I didn’t speak Hindi. I looked him square in the eye and said, "Because I’m South Indian and American, I never had a need to learn it." And, I said to myself, "And, I’m ok with that."

FOBs and ABCDs can only mingle when they see each other for who they are: people who share a heritage but not an experience. Don’t presume that you are being judged, put your stereotypes aside, and get to know each other as you would someone who doesn’t look like you. In the end, my FOB friends add a dimension to my life like no other. I’m grateful that they’re in my life and that they’ve let me into theirs.

*Name has been changed.


Vidya Kurella is a 30-year-old attorney and lives in Washington DC.

The views expressed in this section are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of ABCDlady.



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