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By Sandeep Kathuria

Mr. Bhakta Goes to Washington?

Raj Bhakta on life after The Apprentice, his future political plans and his choice in women.

You may remember Raj Bhakta from the second season of Donald Trump’s hit television show, The Apprentice. Raj was the real estate developer who was fired by Donald Trump after losing a real estate task to a wedding planner. Raj also stood out by wearing bow ties, making pithy quotes for the camera, and trying but failing to convince Anna Kournikova to have coffee with him. Now, Raj wants to be hired as a member of Congress by the voters of a district in and near Philadelphia. I caught up with him one morning to learn how this former reality television star aims to make the jump into politics.

Approximately 10 months have passed since your last appearance on The Apprentice. What have you been doing since then?
One of my primary initiatives has been the creation of the Coalition for the Advancement of the Republic. The mandate of that [organization] has been to advance policies which are consistent with the long-term interests of the United States, with a specific emphasis on ideals based on individual liberty, responsibility, and free markets. And, one of the major issues has been trying to foster closer relations between the United States and India.

I’ve read that you are exploring a campaign for Congress as a Republican in the 13th District of Pennsylvania. What’s the latest?
Barring any unforeseen circumstances, there will be an official announcement of my intention to be a candidate and to win [in the near future].

When is the Republican primary?
There are going to be two primaries, one in the city of Philadelphia which will happen in November or early December. And the next one is going to be in the early part of the year [2006] in Montgomery County. On both accounts, it seems as though there’s a very significant chance that I’ll be running without substantial opposition in the primaries.

What are your qualifications to be a member of the United States Congress?
I think that to be a member of Congress you have to have a conviction and a desire to serve your country. I have that. You need to have a compass morally and politically of your beliefs. I have that. I think you need to be an educated person on the issues and that is achieved largely through reading and staying up-to-date. I certainly have that. And, perhaps first and foremost, I’m bringing a fresh, progressive perspective to a Washington that’s in substantial need of reform and change.

How would you describe your political philosophy?
My political philosophy is one where I believe the government can be a force for positive change in society. So, I believe that government can do good work. I believe that government instead of creating dependent individuals, and people dependent on government assistance, should rather try to create independent people and give people the tools to be free--independent citizens of a free, independent country.

Would you describe yourself as a conservative, a moderate or a progressive?
I would say that I am fiscally conservative and socially progressive.

So, what does that mean in terms of issues like abortion and gay rights?
On issues like abortion, I am pro-choice and believe they [abortions] should be safe, legal and rare. And, on issues like gay rights, I think that gay people are Americans too and are often a very positive force, certainly in cities like Philadelphia.

What would be your top three legislative priorities?
There are three major issues facing the country. One is dealing with the situation in Iraq. Two is reforming the health care system in the country. And, three is making sure that our education system is equal to the task of competing in the global environment.

With respect to the war in Iraq, we need to have a clearly defined exit strategy. We have toppled a brutal dictator and now we need to provide and allow the Iraqi people to deal with their own future themselves.

On health care reform, I think that it’s one of the most important issues facing America. It consumes twelve or thirteen percent of the gross domestic product of the country. It’s a grossly inefficient system. It’s grossly expensive. Service and care are declining in many areas. Fundamentally, [the problem is] because we do not have a functioning market economy in the health care system. When you break a finger, and get a $1,200 bill for having been in the hospital for an hour, you know that something is wrong. The market is not functioning. Special interests are controlling the single largest economic segment in the United States. I would go into Washington with a view of making health care much more affordable and unleashing the forces which, for example, make cell phones and cars so affordable in America.

Is there anything in your business or personal history that you think might distract from your candidacy?
Not materially. Not substantially. Certainly not in any way that’s warranted. Are there certain things that my opponent, who is the very definition of a career politician who cares nothing more than to get re-elected, [would use] to win? She [may] engage in certain slanderous campaign [tricks]. I don’t know. I hope not. If she does, that’s her prerogative, and we’ll let the people decide in the end what they think, but I’m not worried.

Are there things that you have said that you might wish you hadn’t?
I’m a human being. And, we’ve all said things that, upon reflection, we probably wouldn’t have said again. So, is there something that I have said at some point that I wouldn’t say again? Sure. That’s true of probably all six billion of us on the planet.

Are you prepared for negative campaigning from your opponents if it does come about?
You have to be prepared. Unfortunately, any time you enter the political public arena in the United States, you need to prepare yourself to be unfairly attacked and savaged in many ways. That is the highest price that has to be paid in American politics. And, yeah, I’m willing to do that. I believe in this country and I believe in the causes that I’m standing up for and there’s a price to be paid. It will be paid. I think we need reform in America. We need a change in Washington. And nothing worthwhile ever comes with no cost.

How much money do you think you’ll need to raise in this election?
I think that aggregately this is probably between a six and ten million dollar election. By the way, it tells you that something is terribly wrong in American politics when that much money is involved in a Congressional race. Campaign finance reform is another issue that I’m very much interested in. You cannot expect people to make donations in the millions of dollars for purely altruistic reasons. I think that the massive expenditures that take place leave politicians open to what is effectively legal corruption.

However, while we’re strong financially, the South Asian community in this country is comparatively uninvolved and very weak politically. And, I think the time has come for that to change.

Do you think that you can raise that kind of money? Three to five million dollars?
I think, at the end of the day, I’ll prove to be a quite capable fundraiser.

Do you expect the South Asian community to provide a base of support?
I think the South Asian community is going to be a very important source of support. I think that, as a community, we have been extremely successful financially in this country. However, while we’re strong financially, the South Asian community in this country is comparatively uninvolved and very weak politically. And, I think the time has come for that to change. And, I think people within the community recognize that.

What is it about your views that will excite the South Asian community?
I think that the South Asian community represents the American dream. People have come here, in most cases with little or no money, and have succeeded by their own hard work, by their own discipline, by their own belief in education, and by their own values. And, it goes to show you that the American dream is alive and well. And, it’s a very entrepreneurial community. I believe very passionately in the Small Business Administration. It’s one of the great unsung successes in American government. It’s an agency which gives people the tools to create businesses on their own accord. I think that the SBA should be strengthened and expanded massively because it inculcates and breeds a society which is strong, independent and entrepreneurial, which is America.

I think that another issue is my deep conviction that America’s future in no small part lies in closer relations to the other great democracy in the world, which is clearly India. From an ideological basis, from a geopolitical basis, you name it, it’s a perfect match. I think people in Washington are coming to recognize that. [But there’s a] need to be forceful advocates, on both sides, in India and the United States, and say this is an excellent, no-brainer alliance relationship. It benefits India in terms of access to technology and economic development. It benefits the United States by having a friendly economic giant [on its side]. India is a proven peaceful nation, whereas China remains a Communist dictatorship that is rapidly growing and taking away our manufacturing base.

How do you think the United States should go about fighting the war on terror?
This is obviously an extremely complicated question which great minds have pondered. My belief is that the war on terror is won by a combination of tools. On the one hand, it’s deterrence. If you actively pursue terrorist policies towards the United States and its allies, you will be eliminated. The second component of a policy is not to expect that we can effectively change nations. I think one thing that we’ve learned in Iraq is that you cannot go into a foreign society and expect that with a fairly sparse concentration of troops that we can change a society.

In Iraq and other places, I don’t support a policy of continuous preemptive strikes against perceived enemies. In other words, wait until an enemy proves himself to be an enemy by taking some action or having clear, specific evidence that they’re intending to take action, before making a preemptive strike. Bottom line, I’m against the war in Iraq. And, I was against the war in Iraq when it began. And, at this point, I think we need to leave it up to the Iraqi people to determine their future.

What does that mean in terms of when President Bush should withdraw the troops?
I think that the President needs to make it very clear to Iraqi leadership that they need to stand up. They need to stop squabbling. They need to stop hiding behind the shield of American troops’ presence and begin to take measures immediately to provide for their own defense and promotion of their own government. That means that the troops should start coming out immediately. And, pressure should begin to be brought to bear upon the Iraqi government to say, “look, this is your country and you’ve got to deal with it.” We’ve given you the tools, we’ve shown you the way, we are doing what we can do to provide a path for you, but it is not our job to build the sewer systems in Baghdad.

Do you keep in touch with your fellow candidates on The Apprentice?
I keep in touch with many of them. I’d say about half of them.

What have they been doing? Give me a couple of examples.
A number of people have gone back to their regular lives. Maria has started her own fashion line and is very successful at that. Chris is back selling stocks which he does very well. Bradford is prospering in his [law] practice. He’s actually running for city council in Fort Lauderdale. I don’t know what Kelly does, apparently he does something with water. Those are the people that I know about. Actually, Andy is working for Trump. I think he has a more important job than Kelly.

The ladies who read this magazine still want to know if you’re single.
I remain single. I remain single.

And, how would you describe the ideal woman?
I think the ideal woman is a combination of beauty, inside and outside. I think that she has an intense interest in the world around her. She is a woman who can actually teach you something, who knows things that I don’t know. She is an intriguing individual, and most of all, is curious and interested in life. These are the women that are really extraordinary, that you can sit down with and have a great conversation with, and talk about some of the issues of the day and about the interesting experience of life that we all go through.

Does that description include Anna Kournikova?
[laughs] We’ll leave that up for popular debate.

How can people get involved in your candidacy?
People can get involved in the candidacy in a number of ways. First and foremost, this is going to require a lot of money. So, donations are a great way to contribute to the campaign. Outside of that, we will be building across the country a network of individuals who are willing to bring people together in the South Asian community and help mobilize the South Asian community to begin to take a very active role in American politics. In their own areas, people can put together events and dinner parties which I’ll go to and I’ll talk to them about why I’m running and what I intend to do and answer their questions about my candidacy. And, hopefully gain some support.




Sandeep Kathuria is an attorney and political junkie who works in Washington, D.C.


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